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[Ebook] Elizabeth The Forgotten Years By John Guy – serv3.3pub.co.uk ❰Download❯ ➽ Elizabeth The Forgotten Years Author John Guy – Serv3.3pub.co.uk Elizabeth was crowned ueen at twenty five but it was only when she reached fifty and all hopes of a royal marriage were behind her that she began to wield power in her own right For twenty five years Elizabeth was crowned ueen at twenty five but it was only when she reached fifty and all hopes of a royal marriage were behind her that she began to wield power in her own right For twenty five years she had struggled to assert her authority over advisers who pressed her to marry and settle the succession; now she was determined not only to reign but to rule In this magisterial biography John Guy introduces us to a woman who is refreshingly unfamiliar at once powerful and vulnerable willful and afraid We see her confronting challenges at Elizabeth The PDF/EPUB ² home and abroad war against France and Spain revolt in Ireland an economic crisis that triggers riots in the streets of London and a conspiracy to place her cousin Mary ueen of Scots on her throne For a while she is smitten by a much younger man but can she allow herself to act on that passion and still keep her throne  For the better part of a decade John Guy mined long overlooked archives scouring handwritten letters and court documents to sweep away myths and rumors This prodigious historical detective work has enabled  him to reveal for the first time the woman behind the polished veneer determined prone to fits of jealous rage wracked by insecurity often too anxious to sleep alone At last we hear her in her own voice expressing her own distinctive and surprisingly resonant concerns Guy writes like a dream and this combination of groundbreaking research and propulsive narrative puts him in a class of his own.


10 thoughts on “Elizabeth The Forgotten Years

  1. Orsolya Orsolya says:

    We definitely aren’t troubled with the lack of information available surrounding ueen Elizabeth I as the material is abundant and bountiful Yet much of what has been said of her persona is pure propaganda especially of her later years starting with the Spanish Armada John Guy a popular historian and author attempts to show Elizabeth as she truly was in the latter part of her reign in “Elizabeth The Forgotten Years” As in most of Guy’s other history works; “Elizabeth” is not a straight forward chronological biography Rather Guy portraits this monarch on a subject by subject chapter break attempting to deconstruct Elizabeth’s actions and thereby show who she “really was” Unfortunately Guy isn’t as successful in this as one would hope The text and dates of events jump back and forth which makes it difficult both to retain the facts and to see the big picture juxtaposition This also results in Guy presenting too much information and going off on various tangents instead of streamlining the materialIt is very evident; however that Guy underwent a hefty investigation and research project Guy procured some hidden documents which have not been previously discussed thereby helping to debunk myths or offer new angles to well known Elizabethan events Yet Guy isn’t overly biased and is uite objective in his presentationThe noticeable flaw in “Elizabeth” is the lack of genuinely showing a new view of Elizabeth which is Guy’s aim The pages ‘tell’ events but they don’t really ‘show’ Elizabeth so the reader will not get to know her better or in a new way Guy falls short of the main point to penning “Elizabeth”“Elizabeth” increases in reader value at the halfway point as Guy cuts down the intricacies of Elizabeth’s politic reactions and includes document excerpts which allow the reader to dive deeper than the usual propaganda Overall the pages are still in the vein of Elizabethan government versus displaying Elizabeth herself; but it is stronger than the earlier pages perhaps meaning that Guy finds his grooveWith that being said Guy still falls victim to weaknesses such as scrambling to fill space which ends up being repetitive For example in between discussions when Guy is a loss for information or for a proper transition; he repeatedly returns to the argument that Elizabeth tried to fight the physical aging process and hide it from the public Although this is maybe true the constant empty and superficial no pun intended mentioning of it becomes tedious and doesn’t add to the text We got it Guy No reason to revisit it constantly merely because you don’t know what to sayThe conclusion of “Elizabeth” focuses on Elizabeth’s last days both in political and personal terms Guy does well with closing the circle of Elizabeth’s aftermath and allowing the reader to see Elizabeth’s impact This is followed by an Epilogue which is in the realm of an essay arguing why Elizabeth was the way she was and how this bled into the reign of James I Guy’s basics are well explained and backed by evidence even though he lets personal opinions flow into this section Therefore the Epilogue is compelling and interesting but some readers may take it with a grain of salt“Elizabeth” includes three sections of photo color plates plus notes although these are not thoroughly annotated It should be noted that there is an editing flaw misspelled word on page 368Guy’s “Elizabeth” is a well detailed look at the later years of Elizabeth’s reign pointedly discussing political maneuvers while exposing some rare documents and debunking some myths However Guy’s aim to reveal a new or lesser discussed version of Elizabeth falls short and thus “Elizabeth” isn’t what Guy set it up to be “Elizabeth” is a decent read and is recommended for Tudor and Elizabeth fans but it doesn’t really reveal any new information and is not a life changing piece


  2. Louise Louise says:

    John Guy observes that most material on Elizabeth essentially ends with the Spanish Armada her dubious victory against Philip II He builds the case that in these later “forgotten years” Elizabeth comes into her own and that these years define Elizabeth in a less favorable way than the early ones when others were in control At the beginning of her reign it seemed as though Elizabeth was “out of the loop” The all male royal advisors found ways to work their will through her Guy poses that William Cecil who is usually portrayed as her loyal secretary was working for the Protestant cause as well as himself and bringing her along He sees the turning point being the execution of Mary ueen of Scots when Elizabeth’s grief over Mary’s beheading is most often portrayed as a reaction to the violence andor loss of a cousin whom she never met Guy interprets it as Elizabeth’s realization that her advisors did not believe in the divine right of kings and had the power and the will to commit regicide For the advisors the reality set in that she would not be marrying and producing an heirGuy shows that as Elizabeth takes the reins she becomes authoritarian and self centered No longer do we see the “Good ueen Bess” She hires and promotes those who will hunt down andor terrorize Catholics She indulges favorites particularly Robert Devereux Lord Essex whom she gives impressive but micromanaged assignments She flirts with Sir Walter Raleigh but punishes him severely when his voyages do not yield the riches she expects She does not pay her soldiers and leaves them stranded The post Armada period is characterized by war There was Spain’s new strategy of reaching England through support for the Irish rebels England’s military support for protestant King Henry IV and desire to re establish influence in France and England’s military support for the support for the Dutch protestants as a buffer against Catholic Spain In these wars Elizabeth promotes her favorites Leicester Essex and Raleigh giving them risky assignments with very little support or consideration for unforeseen eventsThere is a lot on Essex and as Guy develops his character and his relationship with Elizabeth you can get a deeper understanding of him and his famously failed revolt The post Armada wars with Spain feature the the piracy that was part of it James VI of Scotland proves to be a canny cousin He cleverly accepts Elizabeth’s pension and deals with her staff all forbidden to communicate with him and assures his own seamless transition to the throne There is a new to me character a converso from Spain Dr Lopez Elizabeth’s physician who is accused of attempting to poison her and who later channels diplomacy to the Ottoman Empire also new to meAs you read of Elizabeth counting her plunder and holding her favorites accountable when it does not come not paying her soldiers forcing those who break unwritten rules into debt and or the tower hunting down and torturing Catholics you see of her father than the Good ueen Bess The text is usually readable but can get lost in itself for instance several pages on Elizabeth’s clothing and how provocative it may or may not have been and military operations in the Netherland The Index is nicely annotated which is appreciated given that the book jumps in chronology The plates of portraits are very good Scholars will appreciate the reproductions of original materialI’d be interested in a response to all of this by scholars and writers who may have other interpretations of these “forgotten years”


  3. Carina Carina says:

    John Guy’s “Elizabeth The Forgotten Years” is a dense biography about a very specific time period in Elizabeth’s reign—the post menopausal war years when she reinvented herself as The Virgin ueen As soon as I started reading the introduction I immediately found myself taking notes in the margin and I continued doing this throughout the book It’s not necessarily a page turner but it is uite thought provoking for anyone interested in this monarch and the politics of Europe during this time I enjoyed it but like I said before it is rather dense with information I would not recommend this to readers who are not already familiar with Tudor England If you’re into this time period then this is a great book for youI received an advance reader copy of this book from Goodreads


  4. Leah Leah says:

    The woman behind the mythIn his preface John Guy suggests that biographers of Elizabeth I of England tend to have paid less attention to the later years of her life often relying on the accepted story created by earlier writers Guy has gone back to the original source documents stripping back the accumulated layers of mythology surrounding her to reveal the complex and very human character beneathDuring the first part of Elizabeth's reign she was under continual pressure to marry partly to provide an heir but also because of the prevailing feeling that women were not suited to be monarchs Having seen the unhappy and unsuccessful marriage of her sister Mary to Philip of Spain not to mention the hardly idyllic marriage of her tyrannical father to her soon to be headless mother Elizabeth was always reluctant to reach a decision that would make her subordinate to a husband However marriage negotiations rumbled on throughout her child bearing years But by the age of 50 when it was finally clear that the ueen would have no direct heir Guy suggests she was for the first time really accepted however reluctantly as a monarch in her own right – a Prince or King as she often referred to herself – and felt herself freer to stamp her royal authority on those around her These later years – the period covered in this book – were dominated by the interminable wars in Europe concern over the succession power struggles and conspiracies at home and of course Essex her arrogant young favouriteAs well as being a serious historian Guy has a gift for storytelling which always makes his books a pleasure to read It seems to me he has mastered the art of presenting history in a way that makes it fully accessible to the casual non academic reader without ever 'dumbing down' He does masses of research from original sources where possible then having decided what 'story' he is going to tell he distils all that information down to those people and events that will illustrate his arguments It's a simplification in presentation but not in scholarship As with all the best historical writers he knows what information should appear in the main body of the text and what can be left to the notes at the back for people who wish to look into the subject deeply As a result the cast of 'characters' which can often become overwhelming in history books is kept to a small manageable level and the reader gets to know not just the principal subject but the people who most closely influence eventsSo in this book as well as a revealing and convincing picture of the ageing Elizabeth we also get a thorough understanding of those who were most relevant to her at this later period an eually ageing Burghley and the younger men struggling amongst themselves to win her favour and the political power that came with it – Burghley's son Cecil Sir Walter Ralegh and Essex who almost shares star billing with the ueen herselfThe first few chapters romp through the early years of Elizabeth's accession and reign really just to give the reader a bit of background then each subseuent chapter focuses on a particular person or event As is my usual way I found the sections relating to the wars least interesting though Guy does a good job of explaining all the shifting allegiances and showing how the various campaigns led to the rise or fall of those leading them He also shows the contrast between Elizabeth's concern for her aristocratic commanders and her casual disregard for the welfare of the ordinary soldiers sometimes leaving them unpaid and with no way to get home from their campaigns But throughout the period as usual in these endless wars those at the top were constantly changing sides or even religions and no one really ever seems to win or lose and I just don't care Much interesting to me are the power struggles at home and Guy gives a very clear picture of the personalities involved here In the latter years of Elizabeth's reign Burghley was ageing while Walsingham's death left a vacancy Elizabeth found difficult to fill But worse she had also lost Leicester the love of her life She may have had disagreements with all three of these men at various times but she also depended on them and trusted them to a degree that she would find difficult with the young men coming up Guy makes clear that while Essex was a favourite he was no replacement for Leicester and Elizabeth was fairly clear sighted about his weaknesses and unreliability Burghley was keen that his son Cecil should succeed him as the main power in the government while Ralegh and Essex looked to war and naval exploits to gain favour Once it was clear that Elizabeth would never have a child her advisers wanted to settle the uestion of the succession However Elizabeth would never allow this to be discussed partly through a dislike of thinking about her death and partly because she feared that a settled succession may lead to conspiracies to force her to abdicate or worse to murder her thus making way for the new king The obvious successor in terms of bloodlines was James VI of Scotland and he had the further advantage of having been brought up in the Protestant religion Elizabeth's refusal to name a successor meant that as she approached the end of her life even her nearest courtiers were carrying on secret correspondences with James – Essex primarily for his own advantage and possibly to the point of treason but also Cecil who while looking out for his own interests too seemed genuinely to want to avoid major disruption on Elizabeth's deathGuy's portrait of Elizabeth feels credible and human She seems to have been vain and capricious temperamental cruel when angered and vindictive when she felt betrayed But as we see her age with all her early advisors dying one by one including Leicester her one true love and eventually also Kate Carey her greatest friend in the end she seems a rather lonely and pitiful figure Another first class biography from Guy – highly recommendedNB This book was provided for review by the publisher Viking Bookswwwfictionfanblogwordpresscom


  5. Simon Simon says:

    Excellent for what it is not uite so for what Guy intended it to be His aim was to portray Elizabeth with fresh insights that changed traditional ways of looking at her particularly the way she has been represented in popular culture It is undeniably true that movies like Elizabeth and Essex The Virgin ueen Elizabeth and Elizabeth The Golden Age have permanently shaped the way that Elizabeth I has been viewed by the public at least although somewhat oddly Guy focuses upon Fire Over England He also mentions Glenda Jackson's towering performance in Elizabeth R All of these represented the hagiography that grew up around her thanks to historians like Neale although the elements of the legend were cemented within thirty years of her death by Camden's Annales I am not sure Guy has presented enough evidence to contradict the hagiography If anything his work reinforces the estimation in which Elizabeth can be held as a ruler if not as a personality She was essentially interested in two things foreign policy and the Church Guy is persuasive in debunking her fabled marriage to her average subjects as something that existed on anything but a theoretical level The 1590s were excruciating in terms of harvests and Elizabeth did nothing to alleviate the sufferings endured by commoners Indeed her taxation increased at the same time prices rose Her view was strictly hierarchical with herself at the top of the heap This also caused her to be antipathetic to Puritans not enough deference Roman Catholics ditto with the allegiance to the Pope thrown in and any attempt by ordinary citizens to limit the power of the ueen in terms of such things as granting ruinous monopolies to courtiers However in his epilogue Guy admits that she was successful in mostly keeping England out of ruinous war It is unpleasant but not news to read of her ingratitude to her soldiers and sailors after the Armada and sorties into France and Holland Guy drily records again and again that the ueen did not stint herself on any significant level At the very end of the book he uses Ralegh's phrase she was a lady surprised by time as a coda then adds his explanation she ruled at a time when her concept of her authority's base had begun to be uestioned But surely most of her reign passed before this arose? It probably did gall Elizabeth Tudor that some of the hotheads who surrounded her Essex and Ralegh most prominently failed to take her seriously as a military leader because of course she could not take the field Again Guy gives numerous examples of the advice with which she peppered them most of which they ignored Guy has to admit that the majority of it was sound Only a lunatic could have maintained that the English should have attempted to take and hold a coastal Spanish city as a port from which further attacks could have been launched It is to Elizabeth's credit that she refused to play the role as arbiter of the Reformation and Keeper of the Military Flame for Protestants She would have bankrupted England as Philip II did Spain on the other sideSo Elizabeth pretty much stays the same figure None of the material Guy has uncovered to his credit seriously alters her status as incredibly good at her jobWhat The Forgotten Years does accomplish is provide a good look at the period of the reign most often ignored Guy uses the end of her menstrual cycle as a liberating moment; she was no longer hostage to her council's insistence that she marry although he fails to really confront the fact that she had ignored it when she might have had children and could begin to really rule as herself It would probably be correct to date this from the execution of Mary Stuart and the following year's defeat of the Armada when her personal stock was riding high Guy relentlessly chronicles how stressful the last full decade of the reign was with it effectively ending with the fall of EssexThe writing is excellent and the book is a pleasure to read Recommended for anyone with an interest in her or the general period


  6. Gina Gina says:

    There is so much we think we know about Elizabeth I ueen of England We would be highly mistakenIn this well researched book John Guy shines a light on a very very strong woman who took her place in a male dominated world and earned her place in royal history At the beginning of her reign Elizabeth was repeatedly told her job was to marry and produce an heir However it is understandable that Elizabeth was in no hurry to marry considering her tyrannical father beheaded her mother and her sister was uite unhappily married to Philip of Spain The book focuses on the time period after people finally came to accept that she would neither marry nor produce an heir Guy also covers Elizabeth's darker side her violent outbursts and her deep fears which made it impossible for her to sleep alone The book is well researched and very well written


  7. Philip Philip says:

    Myths are best served exploded otherwise they can overinflate and thus hide the substance of any dish And if that dish be the national consciousness or identity of a nation then such over egging must be avoided lest it become the overelaborated normIn recent times the Tudors have become entertainment currency and not only in British media From television series to historical novels to feature films we have seen a plethora of offerings mainly stories of Henry VIII and Elizabeth it has to be said These often degenerate into costume dramas or whodunits of political intrigue where accuracy is smoothed out of the history to create the kind of simplistic cliché of plot that mass markets are deemed to demand “Based on a true story” that overworked and internally contradictory byline is now so overworked that it would be better omitted “Fabricated around historical names” would be better And though there is nothing wrong with fiction since it often allows interpretations that challenge received wisdom there are real difficulties when that fiction is transferred into myth whose acceptance becomes so widespread that it may not be challenged It could be argued that connotations associated with terms such as Good ueen Bess Golden Age or even simply Elizabethan are in danger of relying on fiction than fact Or perhaps these are nostalgic labels for contemporary ideal states that are thought to be lacking in our own timesAnd so what an absolute delight it is to come upon a book such as Elizabeth The Forgotten Years by John Guy This is a book that really is based on true stories since this academic historian of Clare College Cambridge references and describes any sources that the reader may need to back up any point Timescales are not stretched statement is supported by facts and mystery is only allowed to obscure fact when evidence does not existThe forgotten years of John Guy’s title refer to the latter part of Elizabeth's reign The earlier years that preceded the Armada in 1588 with their multiple plots proposals matchmakings and conspiracies are the ones that form the backdrop for most of the fictions These later years were characterized by war economic difficulties and political intrigue They were perhaps dominated by considerations of succession since Elizabeth of course had no heir It is worth noting here however that John Guy by virtue of a discursive style that deals with issues rather than a mixture of events arranged chronologically does offer as context much background material relating to the years before 1588 This picture that is purportedly a selective encounter with the later years of Elizabeth's reign thus contains much rounded and detailed description of her entire reignJohn Guy states several assumptions that must guide our understanding of the period In the sixteenth century he says status did not trump gender Elizabeth was a woman and that meant that many of the males at court had little or no respect for her apart from their recognition of her birthright And because her mother was Anne Boleyn whom her father married after his denied divorce even that was uestioned by many especially those of the old faith who would also have wanted to do than merely undermine this Protestant ueen The author incidentally is not implying that gender issues are or were different in other centuries As a professional historian he is simply defining the scope of relevance that is to be ascribed to his comment Secondly because Elizabeth was a single woman the issue of succession had to dominate her reign In the earlier years this meant various scrambles to find her a husband in the hope that a male heir might materialize But later on in the period that John Guy's book covers Elizabeth was too old to bear children anyway Discussion on succession therefore shifted from matchmaking into strategic and political territoryIn Elizabeth The Forgotten Years the ueen is portrayed as a fundamentally medieval monarch She saw herself as descended from God the assured kin of all others who shared this enthroned proximity to the Almighty Hence she could not bring herself to sign the death warrant for Mary ueen of Scots believing that a decision to kill a royal by anyone would legitimize the practice and who then might be next to get it in the neck? And since this by definition was a direct attack on God it also carried damnation as a conseuence Hence Elizabeth's duplicity in letting it be known she wanted Mary disposed of whilst at the same time denying any responsibility for the act thus reuiring the person who enacted her wishes to be hauled up for treason These medieval royals were above reason it seems as well as above the law And messengers it seems have always been fair game This unwillingness to sign a death warrant was not a weakness that affected Elizabeth very often It seems that the mere whiff of a plot or conspiracy uickly resulted in all smells being masked by the odor of fresh ink forming her signature on an invitation to the Tower John Guy’s book regularly takes us to the gallows with these condemned people usually men of course and offers detail of their fate A particularly memorable sentence specifically suggested by the ueen had one condemned man hanged for just one swing of the rope so he could then be cut down and still alive and still conscious witness his own guts and beating heart being placed on the ground beside him In an age that still believed in the resurrection of the mortal body these treasonous felons had to be dismembered and their parts separated to ensure they would never have their souls saved It may have been God’s will but it certainly was that of His reigning representative on earthThis Good ueen Bess incidentally was in the habit of handing down similar fates uite regularly She also refused to pay salaries to soldiers and sailors who fought for her dressed herself in finery while her war wounded received no assistance or pension and were forced to sleep rough She turned two blind eyes to disease and epidemic that ravaged her forces and population Elizabeth the patriotic hero also and perhaps duplicitously sued for peace with Spain offering Philip II near surrender terms if she and he could agree to carve up the economic interests between themShe handed out monopolies to her courtiers and lobbyists in exchange for a cut of the earnings A real strength of John Guy’s book is the insistence on translating Elizabethan era values into present day terms The resulting multiplication by a thousand brings into sharp focus the extent to which national finances were carved up by elites While parsimonious when others were due to receive Elizabeth for herself demanded only the finest and most expensive treatment It was after all her RightElizabeth also countenanced an English economy that raised theft on the high seas to a strategic goal And her courtiers treated the expeditions as capitalist enterprises with ministers and the like taking shares in the ventures in exchange for a share of the swag And much of this would be stolen before it was declared or as it was being landed by handlers or mere thieves who clearly learned their morals and behavior from the so called betters The market was free apparently but those who operated it at risk of incarcerationThus Elizabeth The Forgotten Years will be a complete eye opener for anyone who has absorbed popular culture’s portrayal of this age John Guy’s book identifies the very human traits displayed by this Godly ueen and posits them absurdly alongside the attitude of her contemporaries that she was a mere worthless woman There are not many figures in John Guy’s wonderful book who come out unscathed either in reputation or body Neither does he set out to destroy anyone’s reputation As a historian he presents evidence assesses it and then offers an informed and balanced opinion This however is healthy for in the current climate populism is too often allowed to merge its own version of history into its message It does so to achieve some control of a contemporary agenda via the creation of myth and Tudor melodramas are not exceptions to this rule Elizabeth The Forgotten Years demands we remember our real past accurately in all its folly and in so doing explode many dangerous myths


  8. James Morrison James Morrison says:

    'Elizabeth The Forgotten Years' is an extremely in depth biography about the latter part of the Virgin ueen's reign focusing heavily on her relationships with key courtiers The book succeeds in providing a reliable character portrait of Elizabeth as well as giving great insight into how she was perceived by domestic and foreign courtiers John Guy is a brilliant historian with a knack for bringing events to life whilst simultaneously addressing the historiographical debate and issues surrounding Elizabeth's reign Many of this book's twenty three chapters could be read as self contained pieces tackling a couple of events in great detail and concluding with remarks about their significance within the whole narrativeAs suggested this is not a book for people wanting an overview of England as a whole during Elizabeth's reign but rather for those who want a comprehensive understanding of Elizabeth the woman and the characters who surrounded her


  9. Belinda Belinda says:

    I look so forward to any new book on Elizabeth II that I can get my hands on that I grabbed this one and stuck it in my library bag with very little perusal I began it with great relish and was very uickly so frustrated that I almost gave up It's got a really ugly undertone of I want to be different and cool so I am gonna criticize and undermine one of the greatest women to ever live I was extremely annoyed through the entire book It's not to say that there is not some interesting information here there are some great details from letters and documents and some interesting and different viewpoints of Elizabeth but overall it smacks of sexism It has the undertone of attempting to undermine the ueen by indicating that she was a pawn of her advisors and that she was an opportunistic and cruel woman who thought only of her own vanity and reputation Ugg In the climate we find ourselves in at this point in time I am in no mood to see one of the most amazing women who ever lived reduced to a stereotype by an author who sounds bitter and threatened I would not recommend


  10. G. Lawrence G. Lawrence says:

    An excellent book; well researched and written thoroughly engaging and a fascinating much overlooked periods of Elizabeth's reign Highly recommended


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