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L'histoire dans le systme des idalistes ai je dit ne peut tre u'une chute continue Ils commencent par une chute terrible et dont ils ne se relvent jamais par le salto mortale divin des rgions sublimes de l'Ide pure absolue dans la matire Et observez encore dans uelle matire non dans cette matire ternellement active et Dieu et l'tat Cgecaf Dieu et l’tat Bakounine Michel Bakounine Michel — Dieu et l’tat prf lise Reclus Carlo Cafiero — Paris Publico — p ; cm Fdration anarchiste Cgcaf Publico d de la librairie Cgcaf b re d en l’Imprimerie jurassienne Des mmes auteurs Auteurs associs la notice Bakounine Dieu et l'tat Ebook Gratuit France Dieu et l'tat Description Ce livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop L’achat de l’dition Kindle inclut le tlchargement via un rseau sans fil sur votre liseuse et vos applications de lecture KindleCe livre est une oeuvre du Ebooks libres et gratuits Dieu et l'tat Dieu et l'tat Description Ce livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop L’achat de l’dition Kindle inclut le tlchargement via un rseau sans fil sur votre liseuse et vos applications de lecture KindleCe livre est une oeuvre du BAKOUNINE Michel – Dieu et l'tat l'indign BAKOUNINE Michel – Dieu et l’tat Livre audio gratuit publi le fvrier commentaires Donneur de voix Grard Ferran | Dure h min | Genre Philosophie Bakounine a un avantage il n’a jamais t canonis Pourtant sa vie et son œuvre sont indissociables du DIEU ET L’TAT antimythesfr DIEU ET L’TAT Troisime partie DE LA PROTESTATION DU CŒUR L’ESCLAVAGE UNIVERSEL J’ai dit la raison pratiue principale de la puissance exerce encore aujourd’hui par les croyances re ligieuses sur les masses Ces dispositions mystiues ne dnotent pas tant chez l’homme une aberration de l’esprit u’un profond mcontentement du cœur C’est la protestation L'Etat Cours de philosophie Ma Philonet L'Etat Cours de philosophie Ma Philonet Aide personnalise pour tous vos devoirs de philosophie rponse votre dissertation de philo en h chrono Nos professeurs traitent tous les sujets de tout niveaux terminale fac classe prpa Dieu et l'tat culturacom Dieu et l’Etat est un essai politiue et philosophiue de Mikhal Bakounine En une centaine de pages la structure un peu droutante mais la cohrence surprenante pour celui ui ne se voyait pas philosophe ou penseur mais bien un homme d’action Dieu et l'tat Michel Bakounine Librairie numriue Dieu et l'tat Michel Bakounine Publi la premire fois en Dieu et l'tat est l'œuvre la plus clbre de l'anarchiste Dieu et l'tat Bakounine Sciences humaines et sociales Dieu et l'tat Dieu et l’Etat est un essai politiue et philosophiue de Mikhal Bakounine En une centaine de pages la structure un peu droutante mais la cohrence surprenante pour celui ui ne se voyait pas philosophe ou penseur mais bien un homme d’action Bakounine dnonce les deux btes noires de l’homme ses deux oppresseurs historiues l’Eglise et l’Etat Dieu et l'tat Michel Viot Dieu et l'tat signification de la fte du Christ Roi Rfrence Auteur Pre Michel Viot tat Nouveau Une synthse claire et prcise de ce ue nous disent l’glise et les critures sur les rapports entre pouvoirs temporel et spirituel •Une relecture trs actuelle de l’encycliue uas Primas de Pie XI sur le Christ Roi et des principaux textes de Dieu et l'tat Bakounine Dieu et l'tat Bakounine Dieu et l’Etat est un essai politiue et philosophiue de Mikhal Bakounine En une centaine de pages la structure un peu droutante mais la cohrence surprenante pour celui ui ne se voyait pas philosophe ou penseur mais bien un homme d’action Bakounine dnonce les deux btes noires de l’homme ses deux oppresseurs historiues BAKOUNINE Michel – Dieu Et L’tat REUIEMaprs BAKOUNINE Michel BAKOUNINE Michel – Dieu Et L’tat Livre audio gratuit publi le fvrier commentaires Donneur de voix Grard Ferran | Dure h min | Genre Philosophie Bakounine a un avantage il n’a jamais t canonis Pourtant Livres Francais Gratuite Dieu et l'tat Dieu et l'tat Description Ce livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop L’achat de l’dition Kindle inclut le tlchargement via un rseau sans fil sur votre liseuse et vos applications de lecture KindleCe livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop Dieu et l'tat Ebook Gratuit France Dieu et l'tat Description Ce livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop L’achat de l’dition Kindle inclut le tlchargement via un rseau sans fil sur votre liseuse et vos applications de lecture KindleCe livre est une oeuvre du domaine public dite au format numriue par Norph Nop Citations de Mikhal Bakounine Babelio citations de Mikhal Bakounine ` La libert des autres tend la mienne l'infini ` L'Etat Cours de philosophie Ma Philonet L'Etat Cours de philosophie Ma Philonet Aide personnalise pour tous vos devoirs de philosophie rponse votre dissertation de philo en h chrono Nos professeurs traitent tous les sujets de tout niveaux 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10 thoughts on “Dieu et l'État

  1. Justin Justin says:

    Struggled through this book at times due to Bakunin's freuent digressions But when he stays on point you get gems like thisreligion is a collective insanity the powerful because it is traditional folly and because its origin is lost in the most remote antiuity As collective insanity it has penetrated to the very depths of the public and private existence of the peoples; it is incarnate in society; it has become so to speak the collective soul and thought Every man is enveloped in it from his birth; he sucks it in with his mother's milk absorbs it with all that he touches all that he sees He is so exclusively fed upon it so poisoned and penetrated by it in all his being that later however powerful his natural mind he has to make unheard of efforts to deliver himself from it and even then never completely succeedsIt should be added that in general it is the character of every metaphysical and theological argument to seek to explain one absurdity by anotherwhich is why those of free thought can never win a debate against those who have convinced themselves by being bred from existence to be without escape from this mother's milk What I love most about Bakunin is his admission that the very moment he puts his ideas into words onto paper they have become subject to antiuation He recognizes that bc the future will undoubtedly be ripe with greater knowledge than he would have had access to in his own time his ideas aren't so awesome as to keep them free from criticism This grants me a sigh of relief towards listening to his premises He had no intentions of writing a holy bible himself


  2. Trevor Trevor says:

    I became interested in Bakunin after reading The Proud Tower A Portrait of the World Before the War 1890 1914 I then saw that this one was available from the nice people at Librivoxhttplibrivoxorggod and the stateThis is a very interesting book There are lots of fairly standard arguments against the existence of God – I’ve always been attracted to the idea elaborated here that God creating the universe that is something infinitely developed making something less developed is the exact opposite of how things normally work in the universe That is generally things grow from less to complex It is an interesting argument although Darwinian evolution is a bit complex and so it turns out things can and do evolve to become simplerBakunin has many very interesting thing to say in this book particularly about the relationship between God the state and power Essentially he says that those in power need something to excuse them for gorging themselves on their plenty and something that will also keep those being stolen from from noticing by promising them pie in the sky when they die Religion serves this role particularly well Religion has always been strongly supported in theory at least by the ruling classes His point is that king and God hold hands and march togetherI hadn’t really thought about the fact that Christianity which is often viewed as a kind of updated Judaism is actually accurately described as Platonism with a Jewish overcoat He makes an interesting point about how long and hard the Jews had to struggle to keep to the idea of a single God In fact every time Moses turned his back his people were trying to worship one or other of the local GodsHis views on science are also very interesting He acknowledges that science is different from faith and must be a core basis for human endeavour and understanding however he also says that the problem with science is that scientists view the world as little than an experiment Science doesn’t really deal with individuals – not real individuals – it deals with what he refers to following Hegel as ‘abstract individuals’ That is science never thinks about Paul or Jane but rather with ‘average people’ or such ideas It is this dehumanising that is both science's greatest strength and potentially greatest threat This is because scientists can then become obsessed with proving the truth of their vision at any cost to the people who are seen as merely ‘abstract individuals’ There is an interesting though covered swipe at Marx around how well we can know the ‘science’ of history His preference is for individual freedom and so his main criticism of the state is that it undermines the freedom of the individual in the interests of the ruling class This is pretty much his main criticism of religion too – that the power imbalance between god and man is such that man must always be the slave of God This was a fascinating argument I have always had some sympathy with the theologians who argue that science offers little in the way of comfort to people given that the universe is so big as to be to the point of being amusing and completely uncaring But his point is that God is much the same – it seems clear that thinking religious people increasingly make God and vague They don’t want to have to defend the indefensible why is there suffering of the innocent? so they strip God of all positive attributes No one really believes in Jehovah any but rather in some very vague force that stands behind existence But this absolutely ideal God is so far removed from what it is to be human that it is not at all clear why such a God such a being would be interested in us at allExcept for faith of course But as he points out the problem with faith is that in the end it is summed up in the statement “I believe because it is absurd” His running through the myth of the fall from grace and our eventual redemption – and therefore the mystery of the redemption – is a beautiful example of this will to believe in the absurdThis was an interesting book and one well worth thinking over There are times when he gets involved in Hegalian twists and turns and these are particularly hard to follow by listening but generally he is blindingly clear


  3. Jesse Jesse says:

    While this is hardly Bakunin's programmtic statement and it is not clear where such a statement may be found this is certainly the political and literary euivalent of a high speed roller coaster Freud of course would say that liking such a thing is proof of an excessive death drive but he would only be right if that roller coaster did not have a teleological purpose for Bakunin does not desire his death defying thought to be some sort of Hunter S Thompson esue ride but rather to be the vehicle for some to arrive at certain weighty dialectical truths that there is no state without a religion that there are no liars without ideologies and so naturally enough anarchists like himself are the only truth tellers and therefore that Mill's Utilitarianism is an ersatz Enlightenment apology for capitalism All such truths and related topics are to be found here couched in a blazing style in this very scathing and wonderfully extreme book


  4. LDM LDM says:

    More like a pamphlet handed out at G 20 protests than an actual treatise dealing with God and the State Bakunin's book reads like a well written polemic filled with radical and often simply offensive invective against all those presumed to be enemies of reason materialism atheism and by some strange logic liberty His history over simplified and coarse; his defense of materialism shoddy and uestionable; his attacks on anything not proletariat tiresome and outdated He espouses reason and logic but is unreasonable and often illogical I can see how he became so popular among early anarchists and why he didn't write much he was clearly a man of action not of the written word Though I can see how this treatise would get a rise out of nascent left wing anarchists and atheists alike it doesn't say much that hasn't either already been said or disproved Maybe there is some value in having vocal abrasive elements in any political movement If so Bakunin clearly acts as a trumpet for anarcho communism Jehovah who of all the good gods adored by men was certainly the most jealous the most vain the most ferocious the most unjust the most bloodthirsty the most despotic and the most hostile to human dignity and liberty Jehovah had just created Adam and Eve to satisfy we know not what caprice; no doubt to while away his time which must weigh heavy on his hands in his eternal egoistic solitude or that he might have some new slaves 10A scientific body to which had been confided the government of society would soon end by devoting itself no longer to science at all but to uite another affair; and that affair as in the case of all established powers would be its own eternal perpetuation by rendering the society confided to its care ever stupid and conseuently in need of its government and direction But that which is true of scientific academies is also true of all constituent and legislative assemblies even those chosen by universal suffrage In the latter case they may renew their composition it is true but this does not prevent the formation in a few years' time of a body of politicians privileged in fact though not in law who devoting themselves exclusively to the direction of the public affairs of a country finally form a sort of political aristocracy or oligarchy 31 32In a word we reject all legislation all authority and all privileged licensed official and legal influence even though arising from universal suffrage convinced that it can turn only to the advantage of a dominant majority of exploiters against the interests of the immense majority in subjection to them This is the sense in which we are really Anarchists 35Until now all human history has been only a perpetual and bloody immolation of millions of poor human beings in honor of some pitiless abstraction God country power of State national honor historical rights judicial rights political liberty public welfare Such has been up to day the natural spontaneous and inevitable movement of human societies We cannot undo it; we must submit to it so far as the past is concerned as we submit to all natural fatalities We must believe that that was the only possible way to educate the human race For we must not deceive ourselves even in attributing the larger part to Machiavellian wiles of the governing classes we have to recognize that no minority would have been powerful enough to impose all these horrible sacrifices upon the masses if there had not been in the masses themselves a dizzy spontaneous movement which pushed them on to continual self sacrifice now to one now to another of these devouring abstractions the vampires of history ever nourished upon human blood 59


  5. Eadweard Eadweard says:

    Reduced intellectually and morally as well as materially to the minimum of human existence confined in their life like a prisoner in his prison without horizon without outlet without even a future if we believe the economists the people would have the singularly narrow souls and blunted instincts of the bourgeois if they did not feel a desire to escape ; but of escape there are but three methods—two chimerical and a third real The first two are the dram shop and the church debauchery of the body or debauchery of the mind; the third is social revolution There is a class of people who if they do not believe must at least make a semblance of believing This class comprising all the tormentors all the oppressors and all the exploiters of humanity; priests monarchs statesmen soldiers public and private financiers officials of all sorts policemen gendarmes jailers and executioners monopolists capitalists tax leeches contractors and landlords lawyers economists politicians of all shades down to the smallest vendor of sweetmeats all will repeat in unison those words of Voltaire “If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him” For you understand “the people must have a religion” That is the safety valve For behind us is our animality and before us our humanity; human light the only thing that can warm and enlighten us the only thing that can emancipate us give us dignity freedom and happiness and realize fraternity among us is never at the beginning but relatively to the epoch in which we live always at the end of history Let us then never look back let us look ever forward; for forward is our sunlight forward our salvation If it is justifiable and even useful and necessary to turn back to study our past it is only in order to establish what we have been and what we must no longer be what we have believed and thought and what we must no longer believe or think what we have done and what we must do never The history of religions of the birth grandeur and decline of the gods who have succeeded one another in human belief is nothing therefore but the development of the collective intelligence and conscience of mankind As fast as they discovered in the course of their historically progressive advance either in themselves or in external nature a power a uality or even any great defect whatever they attributed them to their gods after having exaggerated and enlarged them beyond measure after the manner of children by an act of their religious fancy Thanks to this modesty and pious generosity of believing and credulous men heaven has grown rich with the spoils of the earth and by a necessary conseuence the richer heaven became the wretched became humanity and the earth The State will no longer call itself Monarchy; it will call itself Republic but it will be none the less the State—that is a tutelage officially and regularly established by a minority of competent men men of virtuous genius or talent who will watch and guide the conduct of this great incorrigible and terrible child the people The professors of the School and the functionaries of the State will call themselves republicans; but they will be none the less tutors shepherds and the people will remain what they have been hitherto from all eternity a flock Beware of shearers for where there is a flock there necessarily must be shepherds also to shear and devour it


  6. Brian Brian says:

    Very accessible treatise on anarchism the perils of religion and the hopeful ongoing pursuit of the improvements of humanityGreat background text for understanding of Vollmann's worldview and bedrock for Vol 1 of Rising Up and Rising Down


  7. Jeremy Jeremy says:

    Voltaire says If God did not exist we should invent him Bakunin answers If God did exist we should destroy himSome interesting and original thoughts but Bakunin's analysis lacks a scientific methodological approach


  8. Felix Felix says:

    A jealous lover of human liberty and deeming it the absolute condition of all that we admire and respect in humanity I reverse the phrase of Voltaire and say that if God really existed it would be necessary to abolish himThis book resonated with me than most do In it Bakunin presents an argument for the non existence and non necessity of God presented from an Anarchist and Marx esue perspective I say Marx esue because Bakunin was a contemporary of Marx and they both influenced each other but neither was really a follower of the other They do however share a similar logic in their argumentsIn this case Bakunin's argument is that the concept of God is a reflection of man and as such is used to keep the proletariat in place The logic as I understand it is that the concept of God is used to debase man and to present man as a lesser being rather than as the highest being which demonstrably exists Given that the traditional personality of God is a reflection of the personality of a plausible man it follows that the divine order consists of subservience to a plausible personality something which can be replicated on earth As such the Christian faith implicitely endorses subjugation of the proletariat and by extension Capitalism ImperialismThis is carried over into the idea that the state and the necessity of God are interlinked In order for the masses to accept their subjugation under a state they reuire this social order to be sanctioned by something This sanction is religion and its associated spiritual order usually in the form of a church However the church is either subservient to the state or the state is subservient to the church whichever of these situations becomes manifest is irrelevant the important matter is that the church and the state nourish and sustain each other The church provides divine sanction for oppression and the state provides the physical tools for maintaining itNaturally Bakunin desires to break this cycle and to realise Anarchism which he sees as an ideal state of affairs In this world all authority would be based on merit ie individuals would defer to scientists on scientific matters because of their scienitific knowledge but would not prostrate themselves before kings without their being something that sustains them in position beyond 'divine right' or tradition It would be a world of free association based on rational judgement in which the realm of the spiritual would be abolishedThis thesis is developed with reference to the French Revolution and in particular with a criticism of Rosseau's Supreme Being and its failure to supplant the Christian god In all its a fascinating read Bakunin's style is often dense and occassionally difficult to follow but this book isn't long Bakunin takes his fair share of digressions but ultimately this book is fairly focused If you're interested in the intersection of spirituality politics and leftism then this is definitely worth a look


  9. Tim Edison Tim Edison says:

    When the people are being beaten with a stick they are not much happier if it is called 'the people's stick' This uote from Bakunin's Statism and Anarchy crystallises to some extent the ethos of Mikhail Bakunin his critiue of tyranny disguised as liberal democracy Of course one could substitute the people's stick for god's stick or any other authoritarian system that the anarchists such as Bakunin rejected and deridedIn God and the State Bakunin takes aim at religious authority primarily Christian and also at the emerging phenomenon of technocracy a government of technical or scientific experts or as Bakunin humorously describes it the government of the savants Bakunin discursively undermines the dual effect of historical Christian hegemony as creating a world of religious slaves and then keeping those slaves in a state of perpetual ignorance through the idiotic and absurd notions of Christian theology Bakunin's critiue of Christianity could easily be applied to any of the abrahamic religionsBakunin as mentioned also warns against governments organised around the scientific disciplines Well as an anarchist he is fundamentally opposed to any form of centralised government including Marx's form of communism which he correctly predicted would become a dictatorship In God and the State Bakunin also foresees the arising of nazi totalitarianism in Germany The ruling governments of nineteenth century Europe must have been utterly terrified of people such as Bakunin It was no accident that Bakunin and contemporaries such as Marx experienced the ignominy or some might say the glory of being nationally exiled and had their publications either censored or banned in various places They were uite simply considered to be dangerous men and this in itself provides some modicum of credence to their literatureBakunin's theories were and still are subversive to the established political machinery and are still utterly relevant in a world where liberty still exists predominantly in the world of ideasIn a word we reject all legislation all authority and all privileged licensed official and legal influence even though arising from universal suffrage convinced that it can turn only to the advantage of a dominant minority of exploiters against the interests of the immense majority in subjection to them


  10. Grahm Wiley-Camacho Grahm Wiley-Camacho says:

    the fundamental argument that the measure of societies is the well being of real actual individuals is great especially compared to Marxism or utilitarianism but the casual anti semitism is why you can’t honestly expect folks to read “the classics”; whatever insights they initially had can be gained from reading someone else who doesn’t talk about ‘tHe JeWiSh mErCaNtIlE cHaRaCtEr’


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